A Note From A Provider Supports TomZ – (Kind of)

I received the following comment from a provider who posts on Midwdesttimez.com. She supports TomZ – sort of. Her comment provides a pretty realistic estimation of TomZ’s board. Here it is:

am a provider on Mwt .
I have never seen Tomz delete a thread.
But Joeblow has and Eric had a complaint on him that just seemingly disapeared.The provider that posted it was not suprised either.As she has told me she was threatened by Joeblow and showed me the threat.
The banter on the board has become more than ridiculous.I have never been threatened by Tomz .that does not even sound like something he would do.although I do not personally think he gives a flying shit about the board anymore.He is rarely on the board.
The said provider I mentiined even asked to be removed from the ladies lounge .And I to have thought about doing likewise.she said shes sick and tired of the childish accolades
And girlish highschool clicks that are on there.I have seen them attack like pirhannas.
Its all just very unbecoming the days of Aes &Ev are gone .there is no sense of security and no family anymore.its more everybody for themselves.I am not part of the fat girl gang either.lol

It’s sad to say, but these boards are clearly in a declining stage. Whether it’s the chilling effect of the FBI investigations or the rise of new outlets like Seeking Arrangements or Tinder, the boards have clearly been impacted.

Miadultdestination is having a hard time getting traction even though it seems to be a fair and intelligently run board with respectful moderators and members. Naughty Reviews is solely an advertising venue that installs tracking cookies and allegedly cooperates with LE on a regular basis. And Adulthobbyboard, while amusing, isn’t too helpful for a regular monger intent on finding and fucking escorts in Michigan. As mentioned, it’s a sign of a maturing format and alternatives that are tailored to more specific interest groups. As the the older hobbyists begin to leave the hobby, I expect that the boards will not survive in their current form.

As always, if you have any interesting information on the hobby or on any of the boards, send me an e-mail.

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Tom Terrific Spends Time Monitoring Other Boards

There’s a great thread on MWT where perennial cheapskate, Caveman fights with Jake. In the thread, Jake asks why Tom Z and his band of dummies have deleted entire topics and all of the posts contained in these topics from Midwesttimez.com.

Caveman of course defends his cohort of gimpy, grampys and in the process excoriates Jake. What follows is amusing dimwitted banter.  But, the best part of the entire thread is when Tom Z defends his censorship by pointing to a specific thread  on another board that was deleted by that board’s moderators.

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$350. Will this price point stick?

I’ve seen a few $350 asking prices posted lately and even one at $400. Specifically, Anastasia Kane, Morgan Veda, Jade Prescott, and some other smallish provider who’s indistinguishable from Morgan Veda.

None of the providers who are asking for this much have anything that distinguishes them from the run-of-the-mill providers who are currently posting on the Michigan boards. So, is this a leading indicator of an overall price increase?

Personally, I think it’s a niche market and that the overall market won’t support a $350 price point. Maybe these few providers don’t need to support themselves with hobby income and accordingly they don’t really care about seeing a lot of hobbyists and making consistent income. Any thoughts on this?

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Skarlettestarr Gangbang? (Remember, all publicity is good publicity)

It’s no secret that I love Skarlettestarr. I’ve never seen her in person, but based on her pictures I’d say she’s clearly full boner material.

She’s also quite a business woman. A reader sent me this post from TER:

I was talking with the one and only Skarlettestarr the other day and asked if she would be interested in a few guys at once.  She is!  I’d like to organize a rough gangbang for Skarlettestarr for one of the coming evenings when she is around.  She said the donation would be the same as usual for everyone but I’m pretty sure it would be worth it.  Leave a comment on here if you are interested.  I’m not VIP.

Everybody pays her usual hourly rate. So, it’s a nice way to take 3, 5, 10, or 20 appointments at one time. What’s not to love about Skarlettestarr? She’s got a head for business and she’s attractive. Of course, in addition to wear and tear on the vagina, I’ve heard the smell at a gang bang is horrible. So, get this while you can – it might be the first and only one.

Good luck Skarlettestarr. And, if anyone participates in this, report back!

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Is Tom Z Michigan’s Dave Elms?

By now, years after Dave Elms was deposed from his position as the head of TER, most people know the story of how Elms used his position as the owner of an escort message board to take advantage of providers and exact revenge on his enemies. For those who are unfamiliar with the facts, Tits and Sass has an excellent post about it HERE.

The Elms story sounds eerily familiar to me. Over the past few weeks in the comments of this blog, (and in private e-mails to me over the past year) commenters have told how Tom has attempted to use his position as a board moderator to obtain free or reduced rate services from providers who advertise on his board, control which hobbyists a particular provider can see,  and obtain passwords for different hobbyist accounts on competing boards by pressuring providers on his board to extract information from clients.

in e-mails that I’ve received, a friend of this blog related how Tom Z has attempted to get members  who are supposedly affiliated with LE or private investigation services, to find out exactly who is behind Micomplainers.  Combined with the warning I received by anonymous e-mail that I should “watch out” because Tom has a concealed weapons permit, I wonder if I should rethink my insoucient attitude about the blog and Tom’s threats. I really have laughed it all off.

I asked the following question about the Micas when they paid so much attention to the blog after they were exposed. Why does Tom Z care enough to make threats? His small board serves less than 1000 members and, supposedly (and believably to me) ,the board doesn’t make any money. So why is this kook trying to determine who Ghost of Sid is?

Instead of spending time thinking about what’s written here, Tom Z, Ralphie, and the rest of the inner circle should clean up their acts. If they weren’t so dishonest and opaque there would be nothing to write about.

I hope the new board, Miadultdestination, continues to keep the administrators anonymous. Anonymous to everyone! That way, they won’t run into the same issues that have plagued every other board. We need transparency and fairness on the Michigan boards. And, having anonymous admins who NEVER disclose who they are is good start. And Tom – knock it off.

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TomZ Issues Warning to Providers

I’ve heard from three different providers that TomZ, the owner of Midwesttimez, has warned providers that if they post on “other boards” they’ll be personally disappointing him. This sounds like a threat to me. And, take a look at this COMMENT to my blog that several people have said was made by the elusive Mr. Z. The commentator tries to scare people off without any facts.

MiAdultDestination has already stated that they’re not trying to compete with Tom’s board. They’re trying to attract those that have been excluded by Midwesttimez – ( which has a very limited membership). If some of the seasoned hobbyists find the new board appealing so what? Why does TomZ care so much? It seems to me that another board will actually help him by keeping his board exclusive.

I say we need an open membership board if the hobby is going to continue  in the same manner as it has in the past. And, if this new board is the one, then TomZ should be encouraging people to post on it instead of fighting it.

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New Michigan Board Started www.miadultdestination.com

With the nincompoops who run Midwesttmez.com banning anyone with an opinion that’s different than there’s, it’s refreshing to know that there is a new board in Michigan – Miadultdestination.com.

You can check it out HERE. I’ve looked around and there are many recognizable screen names from previous Michigan boards. Like MIdwesttimez.com, the board administrators don’t identify themselves. But, they’re taking a different approach than Midwesttimez.com. Here’s their welcome message:

Welcome to MiAdultdestination – a destination for your adult pursuits.

We’re not looking to be a replacement for what you’re currently doing – just another option.

How we’re different from the others is that we’re going to be an inclusive member driven site, not ego driven. The administrators here aren’t looking to drive this or feed egos. In fact you’ll likely won’t see many posts from us. We’re just looking to provide infrastructure so information can be exchanged so informed decisions can be made. We’re open to suggestions. If they make sense and can be implemented we’ll do it. If it doesn’t make sense or isn’t fair to all parties, we won’t.

Common sense will be the rule and generally it will be lightly moderated. Don’t be a troll, don’t be a thief or take advantage of people. Try to help and don’t ridicule the newbs. If you’re a db or a problem you’ll be shown the door. Above all play fair.

We’re going to have a light hand on the wheel. We will try to help sort things out when the inevitable problems arise – but ultimately you are responsible for your own actions and situations you put yourself into.

This is a refreshing change from the last two Michigan boards. They’ve also mentioned that they won’t sponsor parties, although members can do this, and they’ve registered the board outside the US.  So, is it safe? I’d say it’s at least as safe as TomZ’s board Midwesttimez.com. And, judging only from what the moderators have written so far, they seem to have thought things through and it appears that they’re determined not to make the same mistakes that Midwesttimez and MIcompanions made.

As always, proceed with caution. But, hopefully this will be an inclusive and transparent alternative to what’s available today. My only is wish is that they do not build private and exclusive areas. These have  a chilling effect on open and candid discussion and transparency. An alternative would be a totally separate board which required a separate log in.

This includes any “provider only” areas which should be run as separate boards by the women themselves. Otherwise who’s to say that these Admins will be any different than TomZ and Ralphie1 who reportedly read the women’s only area of Midwesttmez and report back to the “He Man Woman Haters Club.”

I hope miadultdestination thrives as an inclusive and transparent board. Contrary to what we’ve seen over the past year, there are thoughtful and intelligent people in the hobby who are capable of running a fair and unbiased site. The problem is, it’s become a public service as opposed to a money making opportunity and that’s a tough sell to most busy people.

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